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--[[User:MetaBunny|MetaBunny]] ([[User talk:MetaBunny|talk]]) 01:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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: A few things. I like your setup, and I agree the abilities are too much. We should be encouraging players to see the full deck lists, since those old lists represent work by not only this wiki but that database. However, I think the current gem rows look nice.
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: Also, Nissa Vital Force, Breaker of Armies and probably a few more do NOT come from events. I suspect they are outtakes, as it were, consigned to the cutting room floor and resurrected here. I think a separate section for those with a different markup would look neater, but as you like. And I don't work here all that much so others should have their say. [[User:AnarchangeI|AnarchangeI]] ([[User talk:AnarchangeI|talk]]) 02:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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:: Eventually the "new" bosses that are only part of this event could have gem rows as well; eg I put the bonuses and 8/10 cards for Vile Aggregate in invisible notes (and its ability is to give +3/+0 to all its creatures) [[User:AnarchangeI|AnarchangeI]] ([[User talk:AnarchangeI|talk]]) 02:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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Thanks for the feedback. I suspect that many of the "missing" opponents are actually from Battle for Zendikar story missions. (I've been meaning to look into them at some point.) But yeah, any that aren't already somewhere on the wiki could have full entries here in another section. Do you think adding the mana bonuses to the table would be a good idea? --[[User:MetaBunny|MetaBunny]] ([[User talk:MetaBunny|talk]]) 21:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Opponent
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! rowspan="2" |Colors
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! rowspan="2" |Level
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! rowspan="2" |HP
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! colspan="6" |Mana Bonuses
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! rowspan="2" |Set
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! rowspan="2" |Original Event
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!{{W}} !! {{U}} !! {{B}} !! {{R}} !! {{G}} !! {{Symbol|L}}
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| [[Space-Time_Catastrophe#Node_4:_A_History_Rewritten|A History Rewritten]]
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| {{Color Icons|U}} || 110 || 260 || -2 || +3 || +4 || +3 || +1 || +0 || {{DOM}} || [[Space-Time Catastrophe]]
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| [[Fables_of_Eldraine#Node_8:_Crystal_Slipper|Crystal Slipper]]
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| {{Color Icons|RUW}} || 80 || 173 || +4 || +4 || -1 || +2 || +3 || +0 || {{ELD}} || [[Fables of Eldraine]]
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| [[Hero's_Path_-_Face_the_Hydra#2.3_Elder_Hydra_Catastrophe|Elder Hydra Catastrophe]]
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| {{Color Icons|G}} || 140 || 285 || +4 || +1 || +1 || +4 || +6 || +0 || {{THB}} || [[Hero's Path - Face the Hydra]]
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| [[Battle_of_Four_Tribes:_Part_2#2.3_Elenda,_the_Dusk_Rose|Elenda, the Dusk Rose]]
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| {{Color Icons|WB}} || 160 || 360 || +6 || +1 || +6 || +4 || +1 || +0 || {{RIX}} || [[Battle of Four Tribes: Part 2]]
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::Vile Aggregate and Sire of Stagnation, as you may know, are in Battle for Zendikar mode battles, so I agree, they are from there. Vile Aggregate is exactly the same as in BfA. I added the deck list for Sire of Stagnation as I had for Vile Aggregate. [[User:AnarchangeI|AnarchangeI]] ([[User talk:AnarchangeI|talk]]) 04:11, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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: The mana bonuses look good and are what people want to know if they are trying to hose the opponent's gem colors with Lands. I think any "missing" opponents should be as complete as possible. [[User:AnarchangeI|AnarchangeI]] ([[User talk:AnarchangeI|talk]]) 05:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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::Kozilek, the Great Distortion
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:L160 all colors
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:+4 all
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:412 hp
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:6 Refill your hand, then gain 15 mana
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#Sphinx of the Final Word
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#World Breaker
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#Mirrorpool
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#Inverter of Truth
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#Kalitas,
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#Tyrant of Valakut
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#Linvala,
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#Crush of Tentacles
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#Remorseless Punishment
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[[User:AnarchangeI|AnarchangeI]] ([[User talk:AnarchangeI|talk]]) 05:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 04:11, 11 August 2022

Node Descriptions

I was thinking that instead of duplicating all the info from the opponents' source events, we could just have a table with some basic info and a link to the original node. To me this would look a lot cleaner and be easier to browse through to find the node you're looking for. (It would replace the separate deck lists section as well.) Something like this, maybe?

Opponent Colors Level HP Set Original Event
A History Rewritten Blue 110 260 Dominaria Space-Time Catastrophe
Crystal Slipper RedBlueWhite 80 173 Throne of Eldraine Fables of Eldraine
Elder Hydra Catastrophe Green 140 285 Theros Beyond Death Hero's Path - Face the Hydra
Elenda, the Dusk Rose WhiteBlack 160 360 Rivals of Ixalan Battle of Four Tribes: Part 2
Exquisite Archangel White 150 392 Aether Revolt Revolt against the Consulate

--MetaBunny (talk) 01:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

A few things. I like your setup, and I agree the abilities are too much. We should be encouraging players to see the full deck lists, since those old lists represent work by not only this wiki but that database. However, I think the current gem rows look nice.
Also, Nissa Vital Force, Breaker of Armies and probably a few more do NOT come from events. I suspect they are outtakes, as it were, consigned to the cutting room floor and resurrected here. I think a separate section for those with a different markup would look neater, but as you like. And I don't work here all that much so others should have their say. AnarchangeI (talk) 02:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Eventually the "new" bosses that are only part of this event could have gem rows as well; eg I put the bonuses and 8/10 cards for Vile Aggregate in invisible notes (and its ability is to give +3/+0 to all its creatures) AnarchangeI (talk) 02:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I suspect that many of the "missing" opponents are actually from Battle for Zendikar story missions. (I've been meaning to look into them at some point.) But yeah, any that aren't already somewhere on the wiki could have full entries here in another section. Do you think adding the mana bonuses to the table would be a good idea? --MetaBunny (talk) 21:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Opponent Colors Level HP Mana Bonuses Set Original Event
White Blue Black Red Green Loyalty
A History Rewritten Blue 110 260 -2 +3 +4 +3 +1 +0 Dominaria Space-Time Catastrophe
Crystal Slipper RedBlueWhite 80 173 +4 +4 -1 +2 +3 +0 Throne of Eldraine Fables of Eldraine
Elder Hydra Catastrophe Green 140 285 +4 +1 +1 +4 +6 +0 Theros Beyond Death Hero's Path - Face the Hydra
Elenda, the Dusk Rose WhiteBlack 160 360 +6 +1 +6 +4 +1 +0 Rivals of Ixalan Battle of Four Tribes: Part 2
Vile Aggregate and Sire of Stagnation, as you may know, are in Battle for Zendikar mode battles, so I agree, they are from there. Vile Aggregate is exactly the same as in BfA. I added the deck list for Sire of Stagnation as I had for Vile Aggregate. AnarchangeI (talk) 04:11, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
The mana bonuses look good and are what people want to know if they are trying to hose the opponent's gem colors with Lands. I think any "missing" opponents should be as complete as possible. AnarchangeI (talk) 05:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Kozilek, the Great Distortion
L160 all colors
+4 all
412 hp
6 Refill your hand, then gain 15 mana
  1. Sphinx of the Final Word
  2. World Breaker
  3. Mirrorpool
  4. Inverter of Truth
  5. Kalitas,
  6. Tyrant of Valakut
  7. Linvala,
  8. Crush of Tentacles
  9. Remorseless Punishment

AnarchangeI (talk) 05:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)